tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post9192280805337809066..comments2024-02-02T19:30:12.868-06:00Comments on Fear Not Little Flock: Future Priest's Wife Advice, You Sing Alleluia in Lent?..and other random quick takespriest's wife - S.T./ Anne Boyd http://www.blogger.com/profile/03792937108732259684noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-12057119690339988582013-02-27T22:13:22.678-06:002013-02-27T22:13:22.678-06:00Thanks for replying! and I agree with your last st...Thanks for replying! and I agree with your last statement<br /><br />One way to help a bit for future priests- have the future spouse 'shadow' another matusha- I lived with a priest and his family for a summer in Romania (even though we don't live there now)- It really helped me see what I was 'getting into'priest's wife - S.T./ Anne Boyd https://www.blogger.com/profile/03792937108732259684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-68572126896979468692013-02-27T21:18:07.537-06:002013-02-27T21:18:07.537-06:00Dear Matushka....no I did not change the rules of ...Dear Matushka....no I did not change the rules of the marriage on my wife and then ask for ordination. I attended seminary in New York, moved to the Midwest...was in a parish, met my future wife and told her that I was headed for ordination and if she was sure that she could handle the stresses of this type of life. She said that she thought she was ready and that she somewhat knew what she was getting into. She stuck with it for several years...miserable but she stuck with it. I was miserable as well as she shared in nothing with my ministry, parish work, nor the people, amid my encouragement. For her, I believe she saw my priesthood as just another job. It was hard for her and for me as well, as my people wanted and deserved the active participation of my wife. Such was not to be and the longer I was in active ministry the more she withdrew. <br /><br />My advise for any potential priest's wife...get good and wise counseling both before and after the ordination. Parish life is rough at best...unfortunatly, I felt that it was best for us to leave active priesthood, but by that time the marriage was pretty much over. (Matushka I would be happy to speak with you about what happened, but let us do that in another forum...I'll email you.) Short message to guys seeking marriage and priesthood....BE CAREFUL WHOM YOU MARRY. Nothing can prepare one for the priesthood and the stresses it put on a family...only a very special CALLED woman should tread here...for your vocation is so sacred, unique and special that it demands heroic virtue for the husband and wife! With grade and cooperation with that grace it can be done and done quite well...but you BOTH MUST be CALLED to this sacrifical way of life!<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-607625210939569802013-02-24T01:37:51.789-06:002013-02-24T01:37:51.789-06:00Yes, it does, Matushka. God's hand in history ...Yes, it does, Matushka. God's hand in history is a way to put it! Fluid Motion & Designhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10963717225714324077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-72698117338415323112013-02-23T17:55:04.006-06:002013-02-23T17:55:04.006-06:00Cardinal Arinze has such a wonderful speaking voic...Cardinal Arinze has such a wonderful speaking voice, I could vote for him;)priest's wife - S.T./ Anne Boyd https://www.blogger.com/profile/03792937108732259684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-56181197674231217752013-02-23T16:14:13.331-06:002013-02-23T16:14:13.331-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.priest's wife - S.T./ Anne Boyd https://www.blogger.com/profile/03792937108732259684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-88348114433287001992013-02-23T16:11:44.463-06:002013-02-23T16:11:44.463-06:00about vocation discerning...it was an 'easy...about vocation discerning...it was an 'easy' choice for me (even though it hasn't always been easy)- I think when you follow God's will for your life, you see God's hand in your history...does that make sense?priest's wife - S.T./ Anne Boyd https://www.blogger.com/profile/03792937108732259684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-85632428633283141472013-02-23T16:10:21.956-06:002013-02-23T16:10:21.956-06:00Anonymous priest- We all would love to hear more- ...Anonymous priest- We all would love to hear more- to learn how to avoid your sorrow! Did you 'change the rules' of your marriage and spring the priesthood on her? Or did she think she was okay (or even happy with it) but the stress of the position was too much? Please reply! If you do and find that you are writing a book- email me at remnantofremnant@gmail.com and you can be a guest post. Your story is an important one for anyone discerning and I don't want my (hopefully always happy) story to be the only one out therepriest's wife - S.T./ Anne Boyd https://www.blogger.com/profile/03792937108732259684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-26791005417576840272013-02-23T15:57:56.660-06:002013-02-23T15:57:56.660-06:00I think he was N. African, but also white.. maybe ...I think he was N. African, but also white.. maybe Berber? Well, St. Monica is assumed to have been Berber, so who knows. But yeah, colour should be insignificant. That said, I, as a non-Catholic, would be super excited if Cardinal Erdő would become the next pope. I loved some of his writings, even if I don't agree with them, I can see where he is coming from and he is good at application of dogma and scholarship. Hevelhttp://kosherkola.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-66239530661095018782013-02-23T15:02:01.591-06:002013-02-23T15:02:01.591-06:00Loving the commentary, here, because of the perspe...Loving the commentary, here, because of the perspective of the other half being represented. A part of me is still conflicted over the single life, and married life; and which one I should devote myself wholly to. I see the value in each, but I also see their respective side effects. Fluid Motion & Designhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10963717225714324077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-44748879174568370762013-02-23T14:37:21.851-06:002013-02-23T14:37:21.851-06:00Hevel_ you are right about coloring...wasn't S...Hevel_ you are right about coloring...wasn't St Augustine N African...but maybe lighter than coffee with milk...8 wish we could get past color (spoken like a white-right?)priest's wife - S.T./ Anne Boyd https://www.blogger.com/profile/03792937108732259684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-42549238056835626822013-02-23T13:41:31.026-06:002013-02-23T13:41:31.026-06:00In response to the beautiful potential priest'...In response to the beautiful potential priest's wife...if you are having grave second thoughts before the ordination happens, that is a sign that you are not ready for such a step. And yes Matushka is correct...you are married to each other FIRST and that must take primary focus. I was a married Catholic priest for over 20 years....my wife HATED it...this dissonance finally lead to our divorce and my leaving the active priesthood. Sad....PLEASE seek wise council before agreeing to your husband's ordination...seek GOD'S will for yourself. God does want us to be JOYFUL...unfortunately my x-wife was miserable in the path I choose, and it negatively affected my parish, my child, my vocation and even at times my sanity. I will be praying for you!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-75409528023144433952013-02-23T13:34:56.997-06:002013-02-23T13:34:56.997-06:00The three African popes really doesn't prove t...The three African popes really doesn't prove that the church is not racist (though it's the members, who are racist, not the church, officially) as all three African popes were white/Mediterranian colouring.<br /><br />While I was raised in the Roman Rite, I think there is something precious in Eastern rites. It might be the tradition and the ancient feeling of liturgy. Hevelhttp://kosherkola.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-44961567855533210362013-02-23T11:21:57.863-06:002013-02-23T11:21:57.863-06:00I agree Fr Matthew- vocations are a risky business...I agree Fr Matthew- vocations are a risky business and not always for earthly happiness- but always JOY- don't you think?priest's wife - S.T./ Anne Boyd https://www.blogger.com/profile/03792937108732259684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-65035853555304747022013-02-23T11:21:14.289-06:002013-02-23T11:21:14.289-06:00yes! and isn't it funny with the corrected Rom...yes! and isn't it funny with the corrected Roman-rite translation- they say 'and with your spirit' just like us now? ;)priest's wife - S.T./ Anne Boyd https://www.blogger.com/profile/03792937108732259684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-53581732412573381722013-02-23T08:48:52.237-06:002013-02-23T08:48:52.237-06:00I think that there really is a vocation to being m...I think that there really is a vocation to being married to a cleric. Sometimes God puts two people together in a marriage to make the married priesthood/diaconate work. If the two become one flesh at marriage, the wife in some way shares in her husband's priesthood. Now, that does not make her a priestess of some sort, but I think there must be a vocation in order to share in the priesthood. If you force it, it will not work. The marriage will be unhappy and the ministry will be hampered. However, we can not confuse vocation with a desire or sense of happiness. You may be called to a vocation you are neither happy about or desire, but vocation is about submission!<br /><br />That's my Latin Rite take on the married priesthood, but I'm an oddball over here, being that there are only about 125 of us in the US...Fr. Matthew Venutihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08864025455106410706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-81287473400745787822013-02-23T01:21:56.198-06:002013-02-23T01:21:56.198-06:00I think your response, Matushka (sp?), regarding t...I think your response, Matushka (sp?), regarding the suggestion of going to another rite, due to displeasure w/ an existing rite, speaks on switching, for all the wrong reasons. There are some things, even in the Byzantine rite that can be poorly done (my Orthodox choir director friend can attest to this, too). It really takes a priest, and the parish culture to coincide w/ one another in harmony. <br /><br />With this same friend of mine, we went to a Novus Ordo mass, at a parish in Vancouver WA (St. James) whose parish priest is a trailblazer of sorts: sporting a cassock; instituting a choir dedicated to gregorian chant; and most of all, adoption of the adoremus hymnal, which covers traditional, or more reverent hymnography, and litanies/responses. It does remind me a little of the Liturgical book, used by St. Irene, and other Byzantine parishes. <br /><br />To quote my friend, "i can pray here," referring to the reverent culture of the congregation. <br /><br />To respond to your point about a rite being a calling, I'll have to provide that blog you suggested I write, sooner than later :P. <br /><br />When I came into the Byzantine rite, I looked into it from a theological angle, and not so much a ritual-driven one. Fluid Motion & Designhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10963717225714324077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-43619330263229891502013-02-22T21:06:29.857-06:002013-02-22T21:06:29.857-06:00Thanks for commenting Elisa!...Lent is always a go...Thanks for commenting Elisa!...Lent is always a good time to remind me that I really like vegetables! ;) My salad of choice is arugula, chopped gala apples with good Parmesan cheese priest's wife - S.T./ Anne Boyd https://www.blogger.com/profile/03792937108732259684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-12990946268264430222013-02-22T20:58:37.796-06:002013-02-22T20:58:37.796-06:00Over at "National Catholic Register" onl...Over at "National Catholic Register" online last week, blogger Jimmy Akin wrote this post about no-no's during Lent:<br />www.ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/6-liturgical-no-nos-during-lent<br />As a Latin-rite Catholic, I'm all for those he has listed, and agree with you on #5. It's Lent so it should be given due respect. A few Eastern-rite Catholics have added comments of their own (for example, see Henry Peresie's comments--you'll have to scroll down a bit to see it) which I found interesting and am glad he shared it! And, thank you to you, Priest's Wife, for sharing this with Latin-rite readers like me on your blog. :) Although we do things different within our respective rites, we're still on the same road during our Lenten journey.<br /><br />There was a papal abdication in 1415 during the Great Western Schism--James Hitchcock's new book "History of the Catholic Church" provides a summary of the events (Chap. 8, pp. 215-17). The Holy Father's family has some property in their native Bavaria, Germany so he can visit if he wishes.<br /><br />To close out, salmon and shrimp are my seafood items of choice, Lent or not.Elisanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-88201028237733568352013-02-22T20:18:36.433-06:002013-02-22T20:18:36.433-06:00No- I don't think it was wrong...but...
and y...No- I don't think it was wrong...but...<br /><br />and yes- a rite can be a specific call. I believe it is one for me. My family became Roman-rite because that is all we knew (and my one grandparent who was an ex-Catholic was Roman-rite, so I suppose there is a jurisdiction precedent there)- I think it all boils down to being honest with oneself- choosing a new rite as a positive instead of running away from the old one (sort of like I homeschool for mostly positive reasons- not because I am running away from the public schools)priest's wife - S.T./ Anne Boyd https://www.blogger.com/profile/03792937108732259684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-68859492299397809732013-02-22T20:10:18.108-06:002013-02-22T20:10:18.108-06:00Hahaha Kayla, your new identity! :)
I too am INFP...Hahaha Kayla, your new identity! :)<br /><br />I too am INFP, which weighs on me more the longer I stay home; no kids to join moms groups, far too young (by 30+ years!) for the senior center. At least those things would be more natural places to go, even if I'm a quieter one at first. If only I had local SAHM friends, I could at least go help them with their babies and have lunch. <br /><br />Re 3: what if ones true place is with a different rite, but they don't know it yet? Can rite be a call, like a vocation is? That's something I never thought of before. Was it wrong for me and others to suggest that K visit another rite if she was unhappy with her parish? That's something I had never thought about either....Jen (AKA Rabbit)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15742830792050815627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-30044029685010018272013-02-22T19:52:52.048-06:002013-02-22T19:52:52.048-06:00a new blog! I will have to run over there!
In a w...a new blog! I will have to run over there!<br /><br />In a way- I am glad that you feel a little call to be a priest's wife and that it probably won't happen (does that sound weird?)- sometimes we want something that can't happen- like me with another baby- so what does that desire mean? How can I mold my desire to my circumstances to God's will and, simply, reality? So for me, it means being a better mom to the four kids I do have and maybe fostering/adopting in the future- for you- there is probably a ministry in the Church that is calling your name...and hey- if you feel called to garden the church's grounds- your husband can help you! he doesn't have to be Catholic to do that! ;)priest's wife - S.T./ Anne Boyd https://www.blogger.com/profile/03792937108732259684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-9234271142857546582013-02-22T19:37:55.463-06:002013-02-22T19:37:55.463-06:00Oh shoot. That should have been published under th...Oh shoot. That should have been published under this name. New blog, new name, new hassles :)Kayla @ Number one Petersonshttp://numberonepetersons.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-902102460517670809.post-56114304913448030492013-02-22T19:36:54.343-06:002013-02-22T19:36:54.343-06:00When I first became a Catholic, I wanted so badly ...When I first became a Catholic, I wanted so badly to be a priest's wife (when I was a Protestant, I wanted to be a pastor's wife!). Now I'm married to a non-Catholic so it's highly unlikely that I'll ever be a priest's wife (not to mention that I am Roman Rite). I admire you all so much though! Kayla @ Petersons On The Gohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12673376586692323827noreply@blogger.com